August 28, 2011

Greetings unto all who read these words from Meister Konrad Mailander, Rouge Scarpe Herald,

This is the Middle Kingdom Letter of Acceptances and Returns for Escutcheon's July 19, 2011 Letter of Intent.  This would normal be the September ILoAR but with starting back to school this weekend was the the best for me to get it done.  So the items on this letter that are accepted at Kingdom benefit by being forwarded to Laurel in August rather than September.

My thanks to Talan Gwynek, Aryanhwy merch Catmael, and Simcha bat Yonah for their commentary.   I have copied relevant passages from the commentary.  

My decisions and comments on them follow the commentary and are prefaced with ROUGE SCARPE: and are in red.  Items that are accepted will be forwarded to Laurel as a Middle LoI posted on OSCAR.  


1) Aaron Drummond (M) – Resubmitted Device - "Or, a drum between two bars wavy gules "

Cynnabar

Escutcheon's Note:
Client's name was registered March 2010 via the Middle. This resubmission corrects an emblazon error. Laurel indicated, "This device caused much discussion of whether or not it was a primary drum between two secondary bars, two primary bars surrounding a secondary drum, or three co-primary charges. No consensus was reached in commentary. As it is not possible to accurately blazon this device, it is returned for violating section VIII.7.b of the RfS ... [also] if this is considered three co-primaries it will conflict with the important non-SCA armory of Drummond, Earl of Perth, Or, three bars wavy gules."

Device Comments:

Aryanhwy:  Unfortunately, the new submission has three clearly co-primary charges, and thus it "conflict[s] with the important non-SCA armory of Drummond, Earl of Perth, Or, three bars wavy gules."

Talan:  I don't know what the original version looked like, but this is unmistakably 'a drum between two bars wavy'.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Or, a drum between two bars wavy gules.  Commentary was split on whether this cleared the previous problem or not so it is being sent up to benefit from more commentary at the Laurel level.


2) Ayreton, Barony of - New Award name - "The Order of Ríáin's Star"

Ayreton

Ríáin -
Index of Names in the Irish Annals dates the name from 900-1200.

Escutcheon's Notes: Client will accept major and minor changes, and cares most about sound (this award is being named after a member who passed away)

Order Name Comments:

Aryanhwy:  This violates RfS III.1.a Linguistic Consistency by combining Gaelic <Ríáin> and English <'s Star> in the same phrase.

Additionally, the definite article should not be used:

Avacal, Principality of. Order name Order of Avacal. Submitted as The Order of Avacal, we do not register definite articles before designators in order names. We have changed the name to Order of Avacal in order to register it. [LoAR 04/2008].

<Order of the> would not have to be translated:

This name uses an English-language designator in an otherwise Latin name. This has previously been ruled acceptable:...

For order and award names, we have traditionally allowed the designator and following prepositions and articles (such as Award of, Order of the) to be rendered in English rather than in the language of the rest of the name....[Gleann Abhann, Principality of, 06/2003 LoAR, A-Meridies]

[Northshield, Kingdom of, LoAR 06/2009, Northshield-A]

Konrad:  Index of Names in Irish Annals: Ríán by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Rian.shtml Found in years 895, 976, 988, 1015, 1016

Lists <Ríáin> as the genative form.

http://translate.google.com/?hl=en#en|ga|star has the Irish Gaelic for star as <réalta>

So <Order of Ríáin's Star> translates as <Order of Réalta Ríáin> as best as I can piece together.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel as <Order of Réalta Ríáin>.  As submitted the Order name violates RfS III.1.a Linguistic Consistency by combining Gaelic and English.  Since they allowed changes I have done my best to translate the desired name into Gaelic.  It is our hope that the commentary at the Laurel level will be of further assistance with the order name.  Also the College of Arms does not register definite articles before designators in order names so the "The" before "Order" has been dropped according to precedent; "Avacal, Principality of. Order name Order of Avacal. Submitted as The Order of Avacal, we do not register definite articles before designators in order names. We have changed the name to Order of Avacal in order to register it." [LoAR 04/2008].


3) Duncan Sinclair (M)– New Name and Device- "Argent, three fish in fess and a brown bear contourny proper"

Qal' at Ja'far

Duncan -
A dictionary of English and Welsh surnames, with special American instances [EN: "Bardsley"], pages 568, 257, 441, 249, and 623

Sinclair -
A dictionary of English and Welsh surnames, with special American instances pages 183, 691, 692, 665, 726, 677, 715, and 667. Also, Place-names of Scotland [EN: "Johnston"], pages xxxviii, lxx, 61, and 191. Also, Onomaticon anglo-saxonicum [EN: "Searle"], pages 172, 416, 548, and 528.

Escutcheon's Notes: Client will accept both major and minor changes, and cares most about language/culture (Scotland). Client desires a male name.

Name Comments:

Aryanhwy:  All these references, and no actual documentation. :( It doesn't matter how many sources the submitter cites, if he doesn't tell us what the sources say about the elements.

Since he wants a Scottish name, how about some Scottish documentation? My "Index of Scots names found in Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/dost/) has 14 citations of <Duncan> between 1379 and 1619, and 8 citations of <Sinclair> between 1502 and 1613. This is an excellent 16th C Scots name, and amazingly I found no conflicts.

Device Comments:

Aryanhwy:  The fish are not in fess; they are "two and one" and also "bendwise contourny".

Talan:  The fish are neither 'in fess' nor even 'in chief'. Their location is 'in chief'; their arrangement is 'in chevron inverted'; their orientation is 'bendwise'; and their tincture is 'vert'. Were this drawn in more heraldic fashion, it would be 'Argent, a brown bear statant contourny proper and in chief three fish bendwise contourny in chevron inverted vert'; as drawn, it appears to be better described as 'Argent, in chief three fish bendwise contourny in chevron inverted vert and in base a brown bear statant contourny proper'.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Name forwarded to Laurel.  Device forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Argent, in chief three fish bendwise contourny in chevron inverted vert and in base a brown bear statant contourny proper.


4) Mariza de la Courete (F) – Resubmitted Device - "Purpure, on a saltire Or, between in base an arming buckle Or and three dragonflies Argent, a pomme"

Vanished Wood

Escutcheon's Note:
Clien't name was registered in February of 2011 via the Middle. The original was sent back by Laurel for a redraw. The color image is a mock-up of convenience as my scan was unusable. The image, and this note, will be removed in the very near future and replaced with a scan of the actual form.

Device Comments:

Simcha:  No conflicts.

Aryanhwy:   Specifically, the reason for return is as follows:

This device is returned for a redraw. Commenters had difficulty identifying the types of the secondary charges. This is a violation of Section VII.7.a of the Rules for Submissions, which says that "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance."

On resubmission, please instruct the submitter to draw the pomme as either truly overall or truly on the saltire. The submitted emblazon is a style called 'barely overall'. Were this the only problem, the depiction would be registerable under our current rules, but since the submitter has to do a redraw in any case, fixing this issue should be trivial.
This redraw appears to have fixed the issues.

However, the blazon should be tweaked: "Purpure, on a saltire Or between in cross three dragonflies argent and an arming buckle Or, a pomme."

Talan:  'Purpure, on a saltire Or between three dragonflies argent and an arming buckle Or a pomme.'

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Purpure, on a saltire Or between three dragonflies argent and an arming buckle Or a pomme.


5) Nadežda ze Zastrzizl (F) – New Device - "Argent, a bend bevilled sable and gules, two cat prints argent "

Tree Girt Sea

Escutcheon's Notes:
Client's name was registered in Februrary of 2011 via the Middle.

Device Comments:

Konrad:  The original device "Per bend beveled sable and gules, two cat prints argent" was returned in Kingdom November 2010. My decision from that letter: Device is returned for having multiple Steps from Period Practice (SFPP), armory is registerable with one SFPP but two or more are cause for return. Also the bevilled line was drawn incorrectly which is a reason for return, this was corrected and new forms sent when the precedent on the charges along with a bevilled line being a second SFPP was discovered. Related precedents:

[returning Per chevron enhanced argent and sable, two pawprints and a wolf's head cabossed counterchanged.] The paw prints are one weirdness, and the per chevron enhanced is another. (Morgan Blaidd Du, 7/96 p. 19)

[a pawprint vs a cat's pawprint] ...we do not grant difference between types of pawprint. (Radbot Gunter, 10/94 p. 13)

Even the documented per bend bevilled cannot, by Laurel precedent, be used with dissimilar charges. Legh, Accidences of Armory (1586), asserts that the field should not be charged at all. We have, as one step beyond period practice, allowed the field to be used with a single type of simple charge. The submitted device, however, would be at least two steps beyond period practice. [Béla Kós, 02/01, R-Outlands]

[Per bend sinister "bevilled"] The line of division was not bevilled as described in the cover letter to the August 1992 LoAR. It is thus returned pending documentation for this line of division. The submitter should be informed that period examples of fields such as per bend bevilled were generally not accompanied by other charges. [Komask Undan of the Silver Stallion, 12/99, R-Atenveldt]


The submitter changed the bevilled line of division to a bend bevilled with the bevil drawn correctly. Will this change remove one SFPP?

Talan:  The arms shown in the colored emblazon are 'Per bend sable and gules, a bend bevilled between two paw prints argent'. They must be returned for incorporating two weirdnesses, namely, a bend bevilled between secondary charges, and paw prints as charges; see the June 2004 LoAR, returning the coat submitted for Rebekah Anna Leah Wynterbourne (Atenveldt). It's also likely that this rendering of a bend bevilled is unacceptable: the version found in Legh, which is the only one that I know to have been ruled acceptable, has the dexter half below the line of division and the sinister half above it, just the opposite of what is shown here.

Aryanhwy:   This is not a correct rendering of a bend bevilled; the 08/1992 Cover Letter has an example of a correctly drawn one, and it has the chief part of the bend falling below the line of division, and the base part of the bend rising above, as opposed to the reverse here. I'm attaching the relevant image from that cover letter.

Reblazon: "Per bend sable and gules, a bend bevilled between two cat's paw prints argent".

"The use of charges on a field with a bend bevilled is a step from period practice." [Kilian MacAd, LoAR 04/2010, East-A]

ROUGE SCARPE:  Device is returned for having multiple Steps from Period Practice (SFPP), armory is registerable with one SFPP but two or more are cause for return. Also the bevilled bend was drawn incorrectly which is a reason for return. Related precedents:

[returning Per chevron enhanced argent and sable, two pawprints and a wolf's head cabossed counterchanged.] The paw prints are one weirdness, and the per chevron enhanced is another. (Morgan Blaidd Du, 7/96 p. 19)

[a pawprint vs a cat's pawprint] ...we do not grant difference between types of pawprint. (Radbot Gunter, 10/94 p. 13)

"The use of charges on a field with a bend bevilled is a step from period practice." [Kilian MacAd, LoAR 04/2010, East-A]

This unfortunately was virtually the same reasons for return as the previous submission.  The submitter needs to eliminate at least one of the two steps from period practice in her redesign.  If she decides to keep the bend bevilled or per bend bevilled of the previous submission she should reference the 08/1992 LoAR Cover Letter http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1992/08/cl.html to make sure it is drawn correctly.  If she would like to keep the pawprints they should be blazoned as "cat's pawprints" instead of "cat prints"


6) Rickard of Rivenvale (M) – New name for Rickard of Gwyntarian

Rivenvale

Escutcheon's Notes:
Client is changing his existing registered name (Reg. April 2000 via the Middle) to reflect a new group name. Rivenvale is a shire name registered October of 2002 via the middle. Client is releasing his old name upon registration of the new and cares most about the spelling.

Name Comments:

Aryanhwy:   No conflicts found.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel.


7) Tethion de Dol Ffynon (M) – New Name and Device - "A gyronny of eight azure and argent, a dragon rampant gules countourne armed and langued of the first maintaining a sword proper palewise"

Castell Gwent

Tethion - from Cornish (and Other) Personal Names from the 10th Century Bodmin Manumissions at http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/Bodmin/

Dol - "meadow" [EN: "also from a do not copy list" I've found references confirming this is Gaelic for meadow but not one from Appendix H. A LoAR cites "Merioneth Lay Subsidy 1292"]

Ffynon - "Spring" [EN: Same as above, where I've found several SCA sources citing Ffynnon as 'Spring/well" but not one from Appendix H as noted].

Escutcheon's Notes:
Client will NOT accept major changes and desires a male name. Client submitted several devices together. After much internal discussion it was decided to enter these onto the ILoI for commentary, and forms will be corrected later. I've included this despite the sparse name documentation based on a past discussion and decision with Rouge Scarpe.

Name Comments:

Konrad:  Cornish (and Other) Personal Names from the 10th Century Bodmin Manumissions

by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/Bodmin/celtic.html

Tethion m.

Redon has multiple examples of masculine Tethion and other examples of "Teth-" as a prototheme. All three examples in Bodmin are clearly identified as masculine (and appear to be different individuals).

Teðion (E 204 witness) Teþion (L 116, 155 witness)

From the May 2010 LoAR acceptances via Calontir:

Nest ffynnon. Name. There was some question regarding the plausibility of the toponymic element ffynnon 'spring' in a Welsh byname.

Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, "Names and Naming Practices in the Merioneth Lay Subsidy Roll 1292-3" (Y Camamseriad, Issue 1, 1992, p. 78) gives examples of four toponymic bynames found in this source:

Some form of the Welsh o yr 'of the' appears in four locatives: or Dol, Orellyn (o'r Llyn), Vrnant (o'r Nant) and or pant. The locative terms in these cases are generic (meadow, lake, stream, valley) rather than being proper names.

In addition to this statement, p. 80, s.n. Pant, lists the forms or pant and Pant, showing a toponymic byname without a form of o yr.

Based on these examples, ffynnon is a plausible toponymic byname in Welsh.


I will add a request to make major changes to my lets save you submissions letter since it looks like the name may work as <Tethion or Dol ffynnon> may work and if not <Tethion or Dol>, <Tethion or ffynnon>, or <Tethion ffynnon> should and all of these are major changes.

I got the rest of the sources the submitter used for his name:

Use of article "de": A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/welsh13.html by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn

Bynames Based On Location The typical nickname based on location simply uses the proper name of a place after the given name. In this document, Latin de is sometimes placed before the place-name. E.g. Tuder Glyne Alan de Ruthin

Dol Ffynnon: Period Welsh Models for SCA Households and the Nomenclature Thereof by Heather Rose Jones http://www.heatherrosejones.com/welshhouseholdname/features.html

Welsh element "translation" (known modifier types)

Ffynnon "spring" (personal name, usually a saint or legendary figure)

Dol "meadow" (personal name, occupation, geographic term, color)"

The submitter sent me another email allowing the change of <de> to <or> and stating his preference for <Teðion> from the supported spellings.

I have asked him which he would prefer <de> or <or>. His reply: "I was actually going for a Cornish name so whichever article would be most appropriate, in period naming for that area, would be preferable."

Aryanhwy:  As has been noted, the documentation does not support the spelling <Tethion>, only <Teðion> or <Teþion>.

Owen & Morgan, Dictionary of the Place-Names of Wales, has a number of compounds with <Dol-> 'water-meadow' including (header forms in parentheses) <Dolanog> 1633 ?'area of the small water-meadows' (Dolanog); <Dolbeddmaen> 1284, <Dolbenmaen> 1304-5 'water-meadow of the prominent outcrop' (Dolbenmaen); <Doluor'> 1281-2, <Dolvaur> 1291, <Dolvor> 1577 'water-meadow of Mor (pers.n.)' (Dolfor); <Dolgarrog> 1534 'water-meadow of the torrent' (Dolgarrog); <Dolkelew> 1254, <Dolgethleu> 1294-5, <Dolgethly> 1292-3, <Dolgelle> 1437, <Dolgelley> 1552 'water-meadow of cells' (Dolgellau); <Y ddol Gogh> 1592-3 'red meadow' (Dol-Goch); <Dolwen> 1546 'fair meadow' (Dolwen); and <Doluythelan> 1254, <Dolwydelan> 1269, <Doluidelan> 1284, <dol wyddelan> c.1566 'water-meadow of Gwyddelan (pers. n.)' (Dolwyddelan).

There's also one period name with <ffynnon> 'well' as the substantive: <Fonon Ddrayne> 1575, <Ffynon-ddrain> 1626 'well with thorn bushes' (Ffynnon-Ddrain). There may be examples of it as a modifer, but since in that case it would be the second element, the only way to find them is to page through the book. I'll do so; if I can find it, it's probably possible to construct something like <Dolffynon> or <Dol ffynon> 'water-meadow with a well'.

Talan:  Tethion - This is fine.

Dol - It most certainly is *not* Gaelic for 'meadow': it's Welsh. (It's also Cornish, but with the specialized sense 'meadow with a stream'; 'meadow' is <pras> or <buthyn>.)

Ffynon - The feminine noun <ffynnon> is 'well, spring' in modern Welsh [H. Meurig Evans & W.O. Thomas, Y Geiriadur Mawr, Christopher Davies, Llandybie, 1958]; <ffynon> appears to be a misspelling. Searching on <dol ffynnon> at <http://isys.llgc.org.uk/index.htm>, the site of the National Library of Wales, gets two hits, 'CHIRK CASTLE (5)' and 'CROSSE OF SHAW HILL'. Each of these is a .doc file, and each is relevant to this name. (I've given directions to the documents because the actual URLs are horrible.) The CROSSE document includes a brief summary of a mortgage of 2 February 1642/3 (i.e., 1642 Old Style, 1643 New Style; the year has been typoed as '1642/4') that mentions a close of land called <dol ffynnon yr yskyb> (in that spelling). The CHIRK document includes a brief summary of a 1638 brief of a suit involving a watercourse that passed through what was called <Dol ffynnon dwymin> (in that spelling). <Dwymin> is evidently lenited (after a feminine noun) from <twymin>, which must be a variant of <twym> ~ <twymn> ~ <twymyn> 'hot, warm'. (<Twym> is in Y Geiriadur Mawr; the other two are from the concise version of the first edition of the larger Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru, which may be downloaded at <http://www.cymru.ac.uk/geiriadur/> in the form of ten rather large .pdf files.) <Dol ffynnon dwymin> is presumably 'meadow of the hot/warm spring', 'hot/warm spring meadow', or the like. <Yskyb> is an older spelling of modern <ysgub> 'sheaf (of grain), bundle, faggot; brush, broom, besom', as may be confirmed from Edward Lhuyd's Archaeologia Britannica of 1707, p. 217 s.v. <Barn>, and p. 285 s.v. <A Sheaf>, at <http://books.google.com/books?id=KmsuAAAAQAAJ>. Wyllyam Salesbury's Welsh-English dictionary of 1547 spells it <yscub>. The place-name is something like 'spring meadow of the sheaf', though it's not clear to me exactly what the significance of the modifier is. At any rate, <dol ffynnon> 'spring meadow, meadow of the spring' appears to be a perfectly reasonable construction for a minor place-name.

Device Comments:

Talan:  <Gyronny> is an adjective, not a noun, so <a gyronny> is impossible, and 'of eight' is the default number of panes. Swords are palewise with their points to chief by default. The tincture is always the last attribute of a charge to be blazoned. This is 'Gyronny azure and argent, a dragon rampant contourny gules maintaining a sword proper'.

Konrad:  Reblazon: Gyronny azure and argent, a dragon rampant contourny maintaining a sword palewise proper.

Aryanhwy:  Reblazon: "Gyronny azure and argent, a dragon rampant contourny gules maintaining a sword proper". This conflicts with Aleid van Deursen (reg. 01/1996 via the Middle), "Lozengy sable and argent, a basilisk erect contourny gules maintaining a drinking horn Or," with one CD for the field, but none for the type of maintained charge, and none for a dragon vs. a basilisk.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Name forwarded to Laurel as <Tethion de Dol Ffynon>.  The name was on the ILoI as <Tethlon de Dol Ffynon>.  <Tethlon> was a mispelling of <Tethion> by Escutcheon on the letter and this has been corrected here.   Device returnd for conflict with Aleid van Deursen (reg. 01/1996 via the Middle), "Lozengy sable and argent, a basilisk erect contourny gules maintaining a drinking horn Or," there is one CD for the field.  Maintained charges are not considered significant for difference and ther is no difference between a dragons and a basilisk.  Since the submitter had sent in several device submissions at once one of those will replace this as his device submission.  If he wishes he may resubmit a badge in place of this device if the other is registered.


8) Tethion de Dol Ffynon (M) – New Device - "Argent, three bars gules in chief as many lion's heads erased of the last "

Castell Gwent

Escutcheon's Note:
Client submitted several devices together. After much internal discussion it was decided to enter these onto the ILoI for commentary, and forms will be corrected later.

Device Comments:

Aryanhwy:  Reblazon: "Barry gules and argent, on a chief argent three lion's heads erased gules". This is truly awesome armory. This is clear of Bella Caterina Malatesta (reg. 03/2003 via the West), "Barry wavy azure and argent, on a chief argent three crosses crosslet fitchy sable," with a CD for the field and one for the tertiaries. And it's clear of Hungary, Ancient (reg. 12/1994 via Laurel), "Barry argent and gules," with a CD for adding the chief and one for adding the tertiaries.

Konrad:  Since the one he indicated to keep as a device (Device item number 7) has a conflict this the submitter has indicated to keep this one as a device submission.

Talan:  We don't use 'of the last' and its like, and 'as many' says nothing that 'three' doesn't say more clearly: 'Argent, three bars and in chief three lion's heads erased gules'.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Argent, three bars and in chief three lion's heads erased gules.


9) Tethion de Dol Ffynon (M) – New Device (Badge)- "Argent, three piles azure in base two griffon's heads combatant gules erased langued of the second "

Castell Gwent

Escutcheon's Note:
Client submitted several devices together. After much internal discussion it was decided to enter these onto the ILoI for commentary, and forms will be corrected later.

Device (Badge) Comments:  

Talan:  'Combattant' is equivalent to 'rampant respectant', and heads can't be rampant; these heads are simply 'respectant'. This is 'Argent, three piles azure and in base two griffin's heads erased respectant gules langued azure'.

Aryanhwy:  Reblazon: "Argent, three piles azure and in base two griffin's heads erased respectant gules".

I knew there was something about this design...

The 09/2003 notes:

The chief indented as drawn here is compatible with period style per the following precedent: "[A chief indented] The device was blazoned as having three triangles issuant from chief. This style of indentation can be found in period (for example Lowell of Balumbye (Lindsay of the Mount, pl. 107)), but it was blazoned as either indented or three piles. As current scholarship believes that such chiefs were originally indented with deep indentations, we decided to blazon it as indented and leave the depth to artistic license" (LoAR of July 2000). [Celia the Fair, Lochac-A]

Konrad:  As of the writhing of this letter I have not received the promised redraw on badge forms.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Pended.  An individual may only have a single piece of armory designated as a device:
Administrative Handbook of the College of Arms, Submissions Regulations, II. Registerable Items, D. Armory Which May be Registered to Individuals
1. Personal Device - The single piece of tinctured armory associated with an individual's Primary Society Name which uniquely identifies that individual. 

The submitter was informed of this and indicated that he would send new forms with this item redrawn as a badge.  I have not received new forms with this armory redrawn as a badge and since I am posting this letter early, before the deadline I gave them, I am pending this submission rather than returning it at this time.  If the corrected forms are not received by the time I prepare the October ILoAR it will be returned.  The blazon should be Argent, three piles azure and in base two griffin's heads erased respectant gules.  Details such as orbed, armed, or as in this case langued are considered minor artistic details and are no longer included in the blazon.


10) Tethion de Dol Ffynon (M) – New Device (Badge)- "Sable, on a pile, argent a Lion's Head gules erased "

Castell Gwent

Escutcheon's Note:
Client submitted several devices together. After much internal discussion it was decided to enter these onto the ILoI for commentary, and forms will be corrected later.

Device (Badge) Comments:

Aryanhwy:  

Reblazon: "Sable, on a pile argent a lion's head erased gules".

This is not properly drawn, as piles should not issue from the corners of the shield:

While we consider piles to conflict with chaussé fields, a field with a pile is not reblazonable as having a chaussé field, as there is an artistic distinction that we enforce: piles do not issue from the corners of the shield. [11/00 Roiberd Mor Barra. A-Drachenwald]
But there's no need to redraw as this conflicts with Morgan MacNeil of Clan Fergus (reg. 08/1982 via Caid), "Sable, on a pile argent a sword inverted gules, the hilt between three crescents, one and two, azure," with a CD for the tertiaries.

ROUGE SCARPE:  This is being returned for conflict with Morgan MacNeil of Clan Fergus (reg. 08/1982 via Caid), "Sable, on a pile argent a sword inverted gules, the hilt between three crescents, one and two, azure," with one CD for changing the type and number of the tertiaries.  Also the pile should not be drawn issuing from the corners.

Precedent:  While we consider piles to conflict with chaussé fields, a field with a pile is not reblazonable as having a chaussé field, as there is an artistic distinction that we enforce: piles do not issue from the corners of the shield. [11/00 Roiberd Mor Barra. A-Drachenwald]

As mentioned above an individual may only have one device and if not for the other problems with this submission it would have still had to been returned for administrative reasons.  The submitter may submit a badge as a resubmission for this device.


In Service to Crown and College,

Meister Konrad Mailander, OP

Rouge Scarpe:

Konrad Mailander
Dale Niederhauser
110 Dodge St.
Swanton, OH 43558
rougescarpe@midrealm.org