April 20st, 2012

Greetings unto all who read these words from Meister Konrad Mailander, Rouge Scarpe Herald,

This is the Middle Kingdom Letter of Acceptances and Returns for the items on the February 22nd, 2012 ILoI.

My thanks to Aryanhwy merch Catmael, Elsbeth Ann Roth, Andreas von Meißen, Gunnvor silfraharr, Daši Žorfinnsson, Alys Mackyntoich, Chaya Simcha bat Yonah, and Andrew von Otelingen for their commentary.  

Since the letters are now being posted on OSCAR with documentation and commentary open for all to see I will no longer be copying commentary to this letter.  If you would like to see the commentary for this letter please go to https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1252

My decision and comments are prefaced with ROUGE SCARPE: and are in red.  Items that are accepted will be forwarded to Laurel as a Middle LoI posted on OSCAR.  

1: Brigitta the Weaver - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in February of 2011, via the Middle

Vert fretty argent, on a chief argent three ivy leaves vert

Previous submission:  Originally "Plain English" blazon given as "Left side: white background 3 green ivy leaves in a verticle row, right side: green background white fretty", submitted Aug 2010 and returned Nov 2010 at Kingdom for violating RfS XI. 3.b.3. Marshalling. - Armory that appears to marshall independent arms is considered presumptuous.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Vert fretty argent, on a chief argent three ivy leaves vert.  The submitter should be aware that the submission conflicts with Berelindis filia Cunowulfi (reg. 04/2006 via the East), "Vert fretty, on a chief argent three cauldrons sable," under the current Rules of Submission.  There is one CD for the combined changes to the tertiaries.  At the end of this month the BoD will be considering the new RfS.   Under the new rules this device would be clear of Berelindis’ armory with individual distinct changes (DC) for changing the type and color of the tertiary charges.  This device is being forward to Laurel in the hope that the new RfS are approved at the April BoD meeting and the understanding that if they are not it will be returned for conflict.

2: Duncan Sinclair the Cordwainer - Resub Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Originally submitted as 'Duncan Sinclair', returned November 2011 for conflict with Phillip MacDuncan Sinclair.

Sinclair - A Dictionary of Engliah and Welsh Surnames: With Special American Instances - pgs 183,691,692,665,726,677,715,677 & 667

Duncan - A Dictionary of Engliah and Welsh Surnames: With Special American Instances - pgs 568,257,441,249 & 623

Duncan - Place Names of Scotland - pgs xxxviii, lxx, 61 & 191

Duncan - Onomasticon anglo-saxonicum - pgs 172,416,548 & 528

Cordwainer - Reaney & Wilson; p 110 under s.n. Cordner, Codner has the dated forms : Raulf de Cordewan 100-30, Richard Cordewaner 1170, Walter Lecordewaner 1173, Maurice le corduaner 1221, Bartholomew le Cordenewaner 1281

"Index of Scots Names Found in the Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/dost/) has 14 citations of <Duncan> between 1379 and 1619 and 8 citations of <Sinclair> between 1502 and 1613

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel.  Thanks to Arynhwy for finding documentation for the submitted spelling of <Cordwainer>.

3: Kenrick Harper - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for 1400's, 1500's Eng, Wales, Cornwall.
Sound (Ken - rick) most important.
Meaning (meaning "harper") most important.

[R&W] s.n. Kenrick, dated that spelling to 1613 as a given name in <Kenrick Evans>. Does not want Kendrick (-dr) sound.

[Bardsley] s.n. Harper, gives <Willelmus Harper> and <Rogerus Harper>dated to 1379

ROUGE SCARPE:  Name forwarded to Laurel.

4: Linden le Bukere - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in December of 2008, via the Middle

(Fieldless) On a linden leaf vert, an open book argent

Returned August of 2010 for a redraw. From that letter:

(Fieldless) A linden leaf vert and overall an open book argent.

Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as "On a leaf, a book", that would require the book to be entirely surrounded by the outline and tincture of the leaf.

This badge is returned because the overall book nearly entirely obscures the leaf. Section VIII.3 of the Rules for Submissions says that "Elements must be used in a design so as to preserve their individual identifiability." The leaf does not remain identifiable in this design.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon: (Fieldless) On a linden leaf vert, an open book argent. 

5: Lyse von de Beke - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister gules and sable, in dexter a compass rose Or and in sinister a chevron inverted of pheons Or truncated to dexter

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound most important.
Language most important.
Culture (German part of Switzerland) most important.

Submitter is fine with any changes needed to 'de', including dropping it.

'Lyse' is a feminine name found in Talan Gwynek;s "15th Century German Woman's Names" (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/germ15f.html)

'von de Beke' is based on <over de Beke> 1422 found in Bahlow (Gentry) s.n. Ober.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Name forwarded to Laurel.  Device forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Per bend sinister gules and sable, in dexter a compass star Or and in sinister a chevron inverted of pheons Or truncated to dexter.  The submitter should be aware that there was question as to whether the arrangement of the pheons may not be a registerable arrangement.  As there is some room for question Rouge Scarpe feels it is up to Wreath to make that decision.  Also the compass star should be centered and fill the gules portion of the field. 

 

6: Lyse von de Beke - New Augmentation of Arms

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per bend sinister gules and sable, in dexter a compass rose Or and in sinister a chevron inverted of pheons Or truncated to dexter and for augmentation in canton a caliper Or

Royal Augmentation of Arms : A pair of calipers Or, given 08/12/2010 by Radigisus and Ceinwen (Middle)

Name and device are submited on this letter.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Per bend sinister gules and sable, in dexter a compass star Or and in sinister a chevron inverted of pheons Or truncated to dexter and for augmentation in canton a caliper Or.  The submitter should be aware that the augmentation has the same questions about the arrangement of the charges as the base device above.

7: Mihajlo of Nekche - Resub Name & Resub Device

Please consider the following possible conflicts identified by OSCAR (many will not be conflicts): Michael Phoenix(6/1991)

Per pale vert and sable, a lion's head cabossed Or and a chief chequey gules and argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Language (Croatian) most important.
Culture (Croatian) most important.

Originally submited April 2009 via Middle.

This item was lost in Kingdom several times. The College wishes to express its sincerest apologies to the client.

'Mihajlo' is found in "Early Croatian Given Names" by Brian R Speer (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/croat.html) as a name found between 1250 and 1526. Speer also states that "bynames or surnames of this time include patronymics, but also with tribal identity and city of origin or residence."

While submitter would prefer a Croatian form to using "of", we have found about seven different words that mean "of" or "from" in Croatian. Rather than use the incorrect form, we will accept the Lingua Anglica variant.

Nekche is the medieval name of the modern Croatian city of Nasice. Nasice.com (http://nasice.com.hr/wiki/ONasicama) lists the city first named in 1229.

ROUGE SCARPE:  Name forwarded to Laurel.  Device forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Per pale vert and sable, a lion's head cabossed Or and a chief checky gules and argent.

8: William de Clayton - New Name & New Device

Gyronny gules and Or,a bordure counterchanged

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No changes.

The client will NOT accept a holding name.

<William> - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/eng13/eng13m.html >From Medieval Names Archive "Men's Given Names From Early 13th Century England" by Talan Gwynek (Brian M Scott)

<de Clayton> - "The Baronetage of England : or the History of the English Baronets, and Such Baronets of Scotland, as are English Families; with Genealogical Tables and Engravings of their Coats of Arms" VOL III by William Bethem; published 1803 by Burell and Bransby. Pg 409 begins the history of de Clayton of England

ROUGE SCARPE:  Name forwarded to Laurel.  Device forwarded to Laurel with the Blazon:  Gyronny gules and Or, a bordure counterchanged.

In Service to Crown and College,

Meister Konrad Mailander, OP

Rouge Scarpe:

Konrad Mailander
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