Re: [Mid] "Inappropriate" belts

Greetings!

I said,
Peers,
>>in particular, are held to high standards of behavior, as well as
excellence
>>in their field.

And Baron Durr replied
>Please excuse a gasp of dis-belief...on the "held to high standards." I
>have yet to see any award removed for behavior slippage of anything less
>than the grossest of issues. If the members of the orders policed their
>ranks, then I would agree.

Perhaps I phrased that badly. When a Peer is elevated, they supposedly not
only have achieved excellence in their field of endeavour, but those
nebulous "peer qualities"--service, teaching,
not being a jerk, whathaveyou.

Now, you know and I know that not every Peer is a paragon of virtue.
However, Peerage oaths generally pledge them to at least strive to be
leaders by example. That's what I meant by "held to high standards." I'm
sure there are Peers who ignore their oath, but I think the vast majority
try.

As for policing--it does happen. I have been taken to task by fellow
Laurels in the past when they thought I messed up. I've heard of knights
chastizing other knights for anything from treating their squires like dirt
to rhinoing (passed a couple of them doing just that at Pennsic last year.)

An aside--I'm currently watching what happens when a member of an important
Order is accused (then convicted) of wrongdoing in the modern world. Those
of you who follow hockey probably have heard of Alan Eagleson, former head
of the NHL players' union, who has just been convicted of defrauding players
of their pension money, amongst other things. He's a member of the Order of
Canada and the Hockey Hall of Fame. There's serious discussion underway
about stripping him of both these honours, though a number of folks continue
to say he should retain both because he did do good things. I kept thinking
about our SCA orders--what would we do if a Pelican of our Society was
convicted of stealing from the SCA?

I've never seen anyone stripped of their honours in an SCA context (aside
from the Duke now on death row in Florida--and were those actually revoked
at the Society level?) I've seen a couple of second level banishments, but
those were temporary.

Nicolaa de Bracton

From: "Susan Carroll-Clark" <sclark@chass.utoronto.ca>
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Received on Fri Jan 9 22:00:54 1998