[Mid] Fwd. re Fourth Peerage Proposal

This was picked up from another list I'm on, thought this might
provoke some discussion--Siobhan

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>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT)
>From: John Edgerton <sirjon@netcom.com>
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>Subject: [SCA-Archery] Proposal for a fourth Peerage(long)
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>From: John Edgerton <sirjon@netcom.com>
>
>
>
>Greetings
>
>I am putting together a proposal for a fourth peerage to be sent to
the
>SCA BOD for their January meeting. It will be for skill in the
related
>fields of non tournament martial activities, such as: Archery,
equestrian,
>fencing, thrown weapons and war combat. War combat would include:
Missile
>combat, siege engines, scouting, etc.
>
>I would hope that a proposal that includes a larger section of the
SCA
would
>have a better chance of acceptance by both the members of the SCA
and
the
>BOD.
>
>I have set up a mailing list for discussion of this topic on
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>you are interested in discussing this topic please subscribe to the
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>over the sca archery, equestrian, fencing, missile combat, thrown
weapons
>and siege lists.
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>discussion, please pass this information on to them.
>
>Please take formal discussion of this to sca-4peerage, so that your
>opinion can be shared with all those interested and not be limited
to
just
>this list.
>
>One point I would like to have discussed is: If non tournament
heavy
>weapons such as pikes, should be included under war combat as well.
>
>Please hold off discussion of this until Oct 4th. This will allow
more
>people to join before the discussion starts. Also, I will be gone
for
the
>weekend for West Crown Tourney.
>
>
>Thank you, I hope that you will join in this discussion.
>
>Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, O.L.,O.P., etc
>West, Esffen
>
>
>The following is not official policy of the office of the SCA
Archery
or
>Earl Marshals.
>
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>
>
>
>
> PROPOSAL FOR
> A
> FOURTH PEERAGE
> FOR
> THE ART OF WAR
> (draft #2 9/27/99
>
> There is a gap in the SCA peerage system. It is the area
>including those involved in the arts of war, such as: Fencing,
target
archery,
>equestrian, and non tournament war combat.
>
> The Order of Chivalry covers tournament combat. The laurel
covers
>the arts and sciences. The Pelican covers service. But, those
people
>whose skills lie outside of these areas have no society wide
recognition
>at this level. This is an imbalance that should be corrected.
>
> The arts of war are uniquely important in the SCA because they
are
the
>basis for the most common interaction between kingdoms - the
interkingdom
>wars and the multikingdom wars (Pennsic, etc).
>
> Yes, you can get a Laurel if you make the equipment for these
>activities, or a Pelican if you train others and organize these
>activities. But, unlike the Order of Chivalry, which is awarded for
skill
>with the basic weapons of tournament combat as practiced in the
SCA,
you
>can not get recognition for your high skill in these areas. It
would be
>as if, in tournament combat, you could only get a knighthood for
making
>armor or weapons, marshaling, teaching fighters or writing papers
on
>medieval combat, but not for your skill on the field of combat.
>
> The intent of this proposal, to be sent to the BOD, is for a
new
peerage
>order to provide recognition for those whose outstanding skills lie
outside
>the current peerage orders. This is in the areas of: Equestrian
activities,
>fencing, target archery, thrown weapons and war combat. War combat
would
>include non tournament martial activities such as: missile combat,
siege
>engineering and scouting. All of these can be placed together under
the
>heading of the arts of war.
>
> A suitable name and badge for this order has not yet been
worked
>out, that will come later.
>
> The new order would have the same general requirements as the
>other peerages. The following is from the Corpora, section VII
Personal
>awards and titles.
>
>
>A. Patents of arms
> 1. General requirements. Candidates for any order conferring
a
> Patent of Arms must meet the following minimum criteria.
> Additional requirements may be set by law and custom of
the
> kingdoms as deemed appropriate and necessary by the
Crown. .
>
> a. They shall have been obedient to the governing
> documents of the society and the laws of the
kingdom.
> b. They shall have consistently shown respect for
the
> Crown of the kingdom.
> c. They shall have set an example of courteous and
noble
> behavior suitable to a peer of the realm.
> d. They shall have demonstrated support for the
aims
and
> ideals of the Society by being as authentic in
dress,
> equipment and behavior as is within their
power.
> e. They shall have shared their knowledge and
skills
with
> others.
> f. They shall have practiced hospitality according
to
> their means and as appropriate to the
circumstances.
> g. They shall have made every effort to learn and
> practice those skills desirable at and worthy
of a
> civilized court. To this end they should have
some
> knowledge of a wide range of period forms,
including
> but not limited to literature, dancing, music,
> heraldry and chess, and they should have some
familiarity
> with combat as practiced in the Society. They
should
> also participate in Society recreations of
several
> aspects of the culture of the Middle Ages and
> Renaissance.
>
>
> As taken from the Corpora the duties of the members of the
order
>would include:
>
> a. To set an example of courtesy and chivalrous
conduct.
> b. To respect the Crown of the kingdom; to support
and
> uphold the laws of the kingdom and the
governing
documents
> of the Society;.
> c. (If the member has sworn fealty to the Crown)
To
> support and uphold the Crown of his or her
kingdom.
> d. To enrich the kingdom by sharing his or her
knowledge
> and skills.
> e. To advise the Crown on the advancement of
candidates
> for the (name of the order).
>
>
> The specific requirements (adapted from the Corpora) for the
order
> would be:
>
> a. The candidate must have attained the standard
of
> excellence in skill equal to that of his or her
> prospective
> peers in some area of the art of war.
>
> The definition of the art of war would be included in the
Corpora as:
>
> Non tournament martial activities include the
following
> areas: Target archery, fencing, equestrian
activities,
> thrown weapons and war combat. War combat
includes:
combat
> missile weapons, siege engines and scouting.
>
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